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June 16th, 2020

6/16/2020

11 Comments

 

​How to Handle the Grief and Rage

Dear Dr. Gibson, 
Could you would kindly recommend a book that deals with working through deeply ingrained GRIEF and RAGE caused by an abusive childhood? Grief of who I could have been, etc., and the rage that others' (criminal!) behaviour did not, nor ever will, meet with one single consequence.


Dear Reader,
First of all, I am so sorry that you, the innocent child that you were, have had to suffer through that. Your grief and rage, however, signify that you are not compounding your injuries by blaming yourself. I feel hopeful for your recovery because you are bravely looking at all that happened and seeing it's impact and longer range effects on your life.

I don't have a particular favorite book on that topic, but Alice Miller's books are immensely validating to the child's experience. Also, writing out your feelings can be enormously helpful (including letters to abusers that you never have to send, as well as privately speaking out loud:  1) what you would like them to hear and "get" at long last, and 2) how you intend to live your life differently from now on in spite of their past abuse. Writing and speaking out loud can move feelings through your thinking brain in a way that helps integrate and calm them.

I hope that you will consider psychotherapy to continue doing this working through, since the feelings are so powerful. Also, since so much of abuse happens in secrecy, without comfort from others, it is most helpful to talk about your feelings -- especially any shame, grief, or rage -- to someone who can help you get these legitimate feelings out and accept them as the natural aftermath of being treated so badly. Allow yourself to cry, grieve, and hate, but once you have gotten to the bottom of the barrel of your worst feelings, your job is not to ever forget, but to make the abuse into something that happened to you, but never defined you. 

As for abusers' consequences, they live every day in such a diminished, distorted, and emotionally isolated state that they never experience true emotional intimacy with others, joy, or self-realization. With your honest and consciously felt emotions, you possess a precious inner life that they're ironclad defenses will never allow them to experience.

Best wishes,
Dr. Gibson

11 Comments
Jessie Smith
7/4/2020 01:09:19 pm

I had been low contact with my Mom for 3 years. She died in a car accident on June 20. I thought I'd already grieved the loss of her (over my life-time and especially in the past few years). Now that she died I feel classic grief symtoms of spaced-out fogginess. I feel rather numb. I did not expect this intense reaction
. I would have expected more rage or sadness at what I wished had been.

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Darrell Catmull
7/28/2023 12:15:18 pm

Jessie, thank you for posting this. I am having great success with The Grief Recovery Handbook by Russell Friedman and John James. Your comment helped me understand that my spaced-out and fogginess behavior is grieving.

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R.J. Dundas
5/1/2021 11:11:48 am

I'm 55 and moderately successful. Dr. Gibson's book blew up many of the tenets of my Moral Platform (ones I used to become successful), as I now realize they were just healing fantasies. Once you know where to put the blame, move on. Moreover, if you want people to forgive you of your 'unconcious' behavior, you have to reciprocate the same to others. 'Don't Fight (Punish, Coerce,Focus on) the Old, Build the New.' 'Assemble your Life - (Conscious) Action by (Conscious) Action.' It is a gift they didn't get. Finding your peace of mind is reward enough, you'll see.

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Jane Robins
1/16/2022 02:45:22 pm

Hi Lindsay, I hope you're well... Many thanks for your book 'ACEIPs', which I've read most of now. (It could have been me, writing this 16.6.20 question!) Since my (EI) folks died, especially, I've become interested in social psychology. The unconscious strikes me as one area, that humans as a whole need to become much more aware of, as we collectively strive to become more emotionally mature. I wonder if you know of a book by Tor Norretranders (1998), "The User Illusion". In it the author maintains that, our conscious minds deal with a vastly limited subset, of the information coming through our senses, - 16 bits per second (conscious) compared to 11m bits (unconscious)!

Alongside my 'psyche' interest, I've also been learning a lot about astrology. The latter is currently the best way I know of, to really develop one's self-awareness. (Hopefully, in the coming years, the pros in the field will publish a standardised 'tome', which will enable people to access good quality information, about their various 'astro. aspects'.) In the meantime, I don't know whether you're aware of Gary Goldschneider's books. He studied psychiatry at Yale for 3 years, and then used that training to produce an incredible series of books, which I think go a long way towards describing much of what's going on in folks' unconsciouses (!), dependent on their various birth aspects. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Goldschneider - I wish my folks had had access to them! - (They were your archetypal authoritarian parents.) Well, good luck, and thanks again, Jane R.

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Lauren Lazar
10/2/2022 09:53:23 pm

Hi Dr. Gibson,

First of all, I loved your books on recovering from emotionally immature parents including the workbook. I suppose I'd classify myself as the internalizer type you mentioned. My last therapist specializing in ACT (felt kind of too high level and more like a career coach approach) interviewed you recently on one of her podcasts; she came back and apologized for taking a compassion approach when dealing with my mother. She also mentioned you pretty much never recommend going no contact since so many people essentially don't want that (not how I read the podcast or the amendments in your second book, but I understand it's a highly individual personal choice). I keep hearing most people are left with tremendous guilt (I really care more about my own experience and a more individualized approach.) I've been struggling with this because I've worked on my side of the equation.. and things seem to get worse the better I get, the more successful I am with my career, etc -- definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results. Few things - I live in greater Boston and wondering if you have virtual openings/take new patients? I think I could greatly benefit working directly with you if possible.. or any recommendations? I have United Health/Optum but willing to pay out of pocket too. Talk therapy and preferably psychodynamic was recommended in case I'm projecting/not remembering past dialogues/sessions well (willing to explore since I know I have my own lens/baggage/triggers etc).

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Darrell Catmull
7/27/2023 12:09:55 pm

I listened and read the Grief Recovery Workbook by John James and Russell Friedman. I discovered much from my second letter (to my Mom). One of recommendations is that your partner or witness be arms length from you so-to-speak. If you can afford it I would join a workshop sponsored by them or an approved facilitator.

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Lindsay C. Gibson link
7/27/2023 04:09:53 pm

Hi Darrell, I am not familiar with that recovery program so I'm afraid you'll have to check directly with those authors.
All best, Dr. Gibson

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Darrell Catmull link
7/28/2023 12:21:13 pm

Thank you Lindsay. Your work came to me at the right time and explains so much about me and mine. I always felt immature—like 12 year old in a 55 year body. I am calmer and more centered after reading and listening to your first book. I look forward to enjoying your other works and acting my age so-to-speak. I am new to Grief this year and so I only know the one book and had instant success with my deceased father. Then I was drawn to your book and that helped tremendously to uncover much misunderstanding and incomplete grief of what could have been.

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Lindsay Gibson
7/28/2023 03:39:59 pm

Thank you, Darrell. So glad to have helped.

Dr. Gibson

Angela
12/3/2024 10:19:58 pm

I'm feeling relief and grief at gaining a better understanding of my parents' limitations, finally at my age of 57. I'd like some guidance on managing the on-going, fluctuating, fairly low level grief I feel at accepting that I'll never have a parent who truly appreciates and cares for me. I'm just learning about Internal Family Systems by Dr. R Schwartz. IFS resonates with me, and seems like a valuable path to pursue for healing, and self-parenting. I'd value your view and suggestions.
I've had a lifetime of self-parenting and cheerleading-for-self though, and I do long to just receive genuine care without working for it, so I feel a bit sad about that too.

My experience is consistent with your description of internalizer parentified child, emotional mother, rejecting significantly narcissistic father, somewhat narcissistic older sister. My day-to-day basics also include my wonderful, hubby of 34 years (presumed inattentive ADHD - awaiting assessment in 2025) and his older sister (adult with developmental disabilities) for whom I've been the primary carer for 27 years. We have two 'fledged' children. Both my grandfathers served in WWII, one for Britain and one for Canada. My parents were born in 1939 and 1940, and they gloss over their upbringings.

After listening to your many interviews on YouTube, I had a vivid dream. I was floating in big swells in the ocean, in one of those doughnut-shaped, white and red life-preserver rings. My mom and sister were a little away, and more people were way off, all in similar flotation rings. In my dream I thought it would be nicer to be close to my mom and sister, nicer for all of us. So I called to them and encouraged them to join up together. They gradually came closer in through the waves. But once they were close, they started to climb up on top of me, to get out of the water, pushing me under water as they climbed. I had to struggle hard to break free, save myself and get to a safe distance. So there I was, longing to have supportive people close by, but needing to maintain a safe distance from my mom and sister for survival.

Your ACEIP book and interviews have enlightened me and affirmed my experience - thank you so much.

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Lindsay Carter Gibson
12/4/2024 11:51:12 am


Hello Angela,

I'm so glad this information has been helpful to you. You clearly have done a lot of good work on this already. When grief seems to be stuck, I think an IFS approach can be very helpful. Sustained grief may mean that there's a child part that hasn't been fully heard yet, even though your adult self is on board. By working with the inner child more, it can create some relief for the actual emotional side of things. A friend, Nicole Johnson, has a book coming out, Reparenting Your Inner Child, which will be published July, 2025. Your dream was amazing and really captures the dilemma of trying to be close with people who resist others' personal boundaries. I hope that having given so much to others, you can find a therapist with an IFS or AEDP orientation who can help you work through the feeling side of things. Sometimes we need that help to access and work through the feelings, and when we do, the grief lessens.

Best of luck to you on your quest,

Dr. Gibson

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